Thursday, February 24, 2005

Smoke Up, Li'l Johnny

As a man for all seasons, I frequent many different forums, hangouts, and squats on the internet. One such forum is called WarriorTalk Forum. We talk about how we can be more proficient warriors in all areas of life there--Great place to learn about a side of being a man that seems to be all but lost on our feminized male culture. Anyway, a discussion of drugs came up, and some others and I were perplexed by the hypnopaedic rants that were appearing on the thread. TravisABQ responded wonderfully to such foolishness. So much so that I wished to post it here. I'm sure you can deduce what was being said in posts previous to this one.

"Sarah Brady is just as certain that posession of a gun will
MAKE you shoot somebody with it, as you seem to be that
using mind altering drugs (you are hedging on alcohol)
will MAKE someone destroy their own lives, use worse
drugs, destroy themselves and destroy other people on
their way to hell.

I have met alcoholics, and druggies, and the idea that
alcohol or drugs MAKE you screw over family and
friends, and take up all sorts of antisocial behaviors is
just Bovine Scatology, IMO.

I DON'T want a cokehead on the police force, don't
want a meth-head driving a semi, don't want a missileman
in Minot fuzzed up from smoking a joint 2 weeks ago.
I'm none too crazy about having chronic drunks, or people
on Prozac, Zanix, or Zoloft in those occupations either.
Your posts seem to reflect you have had a good amount
of experience with hard-core self-destructed druggies...
I won't debate that point. Asserting that "most" Marijuana
users will use hard drugs, and that "most" users of "hard
drugs" will self destruct because of it is just so specious.
The facts do not support that.

If somebody is into heroin, cocaine, and meth, are they
more likely to be smoking dope, or cigarettes and drinking hard liquor?

I've happened upon some AA meetings, and bars: judging
from the cigarette smoke, I think that hard core addictive
behavior comes in BUNCHES.

If you wish to look up the actual numbers of Causes of death...
http://www.citypages.com/databank/2...rticle12991.asp
"For every so-called "overdose" you can show,
I can stack up corpses from tobacco, alcohol, and
prescribed medications like cordwood.

Some people are just determined to destroy themselves....
Social puritans think we should throw them in prison in
order to save them.... and that we should imprison
thousands more casual users because they MIGHT
be self destructive.

Logic it out for me, why are we (as a society) getting
in between a fool and the consequences of his own
foolishness?

Alcohol prohibition did not work very well, it financed
the Mafia and turned millions of people from beer and wine,
to hard liquor.... and the present "Drug War" seems to
mostly have the effect of financing South American
Marxists, Al Quaeda, and keeping US prisons filled with
"customers".

Let's punish people for demonstrable bad acts, rather than
for posession of THINGS, and SUBSTANCES,
and the bad things that they CAN, or MIGHT
do with them."

--Travis--

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